# Wing Surfing vs Wing Foil type **URL:** \ **Category:** Support\ **Created:** [June 30, 2020, 5:10pm UTC](https://forum.windsporttracker.com/t/wing-surfing-vs-wing-foil-type/38 "2020-06-30T17:10:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![rmitch](https://forum.windsporttracker.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@rmitch](https://forum.windsporttracker.com/u/rmitch)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2020, 5:10pm UTC](https://forum.windsporttracker.com/t/wing-surfing-vs-wing-foil-type/38/1 "2020-06-30T17:10:00Z")
Hi, could you please explain the differences (if any) between the wing foil and wing surfing type selections for a session that are available. ---
**Author:** ![WST](https://forum.windsporttracker.com/user_avatar/forum.windsporttracker.com/wst/32/228_2.png) [@WST](https://forum.windsporttracker.com/u/WST)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2020, 7:25pm UTC](https://forum.windsporttracker.com/t/wing-surfing-vs-wing-foil-type/38/2 "2020-06-30T19:25:48Z")
Wing surfing is as I understand surfing with a wing. So you either use a normal windsurf board or a sup together with a wing. Wing Foiling is when you use a foil together with a wing. Does this make sense? I added this as I saw this kind of people doing it. But in the last month I only saw wing foils no more wing surfers, maybe that changed. ---
**Author:** ![rmitch](https://forum.windsporttracker.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@rmitch](https://forum.windsporttracker.com/u/rmitch)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2020, 7:51pm UTC](https://forum.windsporttracker.com/t/wing-surfing-vs-wing-foil-type/38/3 "2020-06-30T19:51:05Z")
I thought that was what you must have meant, but wanted to make sure. It’s technically correct but originally “wingsurfing” was the same as wingfoiling, there was only people on SUP Foil boards or Surf Foil boards using a Wing. Do you set different planing speed thresholds for the “wing surfing” or does that category even have planing statistics, since they probably never plane? Cheers! ---
**Author:** ![WST](https://forum.windsporttracker.com/user_avatar/forum.windsporttracker.com/wst/32/228_2.png) [@WST](https://forum.windsporttracker.com/u/WST)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2020, 4:11pm UTC](https://forum.windsporttracker.com/t/wing-surfing-vs-wing-foil-type/38/4 "2020-07-06T16:11:03Z")
yeah, I will think about this in the near future, how to integrate this best, but will need some time. Yesterday I saw one using a SUP (without foil) and a Wing. Yes, wing disciplines have different planing thresholds. For foil, you can ( until I improved it) count planing time as foiling time. ---
**Author:** ![liv2surf](https://forum.windsporttracker.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@liv2surf](https://forum.windsporttracker.com/u/liv2surf)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 2:11pm UTC](https://forum.windsporttracker.com/t/wing-surfing-vs-wing-foil-type/38/5 "2022-06-24T14:11:25Z")
I suggest you can ignore SUP with wing (this is not really a sport in my opinion). Winging with a foil on a wingboard (short SUP) is the norm for wing foiling. ---
**Author:** ![WST](https://forum.windsporttracker.com/user_avatar/forum.windsporttracker.com/wst/32/228_2.png) [@WST](https://forum.windsporttracker.com/u/WST)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 2:55pm UTC](https://forum.windsporttracker.com/t/wing-surfing-vs-wing-foil-type/38/6 "2022-06-24T14:55:41Z")
yes I kind of agree, on the other hand, the app should also welcome new members for the sport, and they will most likely start on a sup. And from time to time i still see people on Sup with a wing. Talking to them: they just wanted to enjoy slowness and relax. i’m already working on a new version, that would still support both, but would put into the SUP sport direction. Means: either you wingfoil. or you sup with a wing (instead of paddle) hope it make sense 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Morgan](https://forum.windsporttracker.com/user_avatar/forum.windsporttracker.com/morgan/32/184_2.png) [@Morgan](https://forum.windsporttracker.com/u/Morgan)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2025, 9:11pm UTC](https://forum.windsporttracker.com/t/wing-surfing-vs-wing-foil-type/38/7 "2025-02-19T21:11:25Z")
Wing foiling and wing surfing may seem similar, but there is a big difference in the way they relate to the water. To wing foil means to add a hydrofoil to the board, which can elevate the rider over the water and thus prevent the resistance to a minimum and thus help to ride more smoothly and faster. In wing surfing, on the other hand, the term usually means that the wing is used in combination with a common board (no foil) and the rider is on the water’s surface thus has to rely more on traditional windsurfing techniques. The decision between the two depends on the conditions, the level of skill, and personal preferences. If you like various board sports, then you will definitely also like SUP stand up paddleboarding, which is a much calmer way to explore the water while also catch the wind and the waves for a little bit of fun. ---
**Author:** ![WST](https://forum.windsporttracker.com/user_avatar/forum.windsporttracker.com/wst/32/228_2.png) [@WST](https://forum.windsporttracker.com/u/WST)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2026, 4:54pm UTC](https://forum.windsporttracker.com/t/wing-surfing-vs-wing-foil-type/38/8 "2026-06-05T16:54:03Z")
in V2 those two are available as separate sports.